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Banned Xboxers Filing Group Action

Banned Xboxers Filing Group Action

Law firm going head-to-head with Microsoft

A US law firm is conducting an investigation on behalf of anyone who has been banned from Xbox Live as a result of using a modded console to play games online.

AbingtonIP has posted a form on its website allowing those gamers who can no longer access Live to register their interest in filing a class action against Microsoft. The firm is taking the approach that many of those who were affected should be entitled to pro-rata refunds from MS to make up for the time left on their subscriptions.

The form also notes that the timing of the ban was “convenient”, in that many people would have created new subscriptions or renewed old ones thanks to the release of Halo 3: ODST and Modern Warfare 2. Abington is claiming that sales of both games would have suffered if the ban had occurred earlier.

The document goes on to list additional reported problems that have resulted from the bans, including “disabling/altering Xbox functionality NOT associated with Xbox Live or piracy (HDD functionality for example), disabling/altering Xbox functionality NOT associated with piracy (Netflix, game add-ons, music and arcade games for example)”, and “obtaining information from Xbox consoles without permission of the owner”.

A statement at the end of the form reads: “As an aside, PIRACY IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN for Microsoft and other content producers. HOWEVER, (to use a poor analogy) Microsoft has chosen to use one of the most indiscriminate “weapons” in its arsenal in an effort to combat piracy — as a result, use of this “weapon” has resulted in a great deal of collateral damage — many people were affected who had nothing to do with piracy. Furthermore, Xbox console functions that have nothing to do with piracy were also affected or disabled. Details aside, Microsoft’s bans could (and should) have been more measured.”

I have to say, I don’t think Abington stands much of a chance here. While I’ll defend anyone’s right to mod a console that they’ve bought with their own money,Live is a Microsoft-operated service, and as such the company does have the law on its side when it comes to saying who can and can’t use it. The collateral damage argument might carry some weight I suppose, but without seeing the reports first-hand it’s hard to believe that they amount to much more than the bitter tears of some gamers who have been forced to shell out for a new console so they can play MW2 online.

4 Comments

thedjbook
thedjbook

The fact of the matter is, most consoles are modded inorder to play pirated games.

If they name each one of the users band from the network, Microsoft can then bring legal action against each and every one of them under copyright laws both US and abroad.

I’m confident if you read the T&C’s for Live, and indeed your console, you will notice that Microsoft has already put something in there to allow them to take this action. They have a whole legal team at MS HQ, and they wouldn’t have taken this action if they didn’t think they could legal do it.

EminemsRevenge

Microsoft has released an even more heinous virus on the world, it’s called VISTA! [Which should’ve rightfully been called Millenium Edition 2…Got computer problems–Yeah, Me 2

Lawyers should’ve sued the hell out of Bill Gates and his cohorts for releasing that CRIMINALLY fraudulent OS!

crunchyfrog555
Daniel Linger

I agree witht the sentiments about piracy, except TheDJBook is wholly inaccurate about the resulting knowledge of Xbox users would substantiate piracy charges against them.

Modding a console itself is not illegal in any way. What MS would have to prove in such a situation is that each of the user’s would have pirated games that they actually possessed. Also, the plaintiffs (MS et al) in such a case would have to prove that they had suffered a real loss … and that’s where it gets very tricky indeed.

Merely having an amount is not enough. One point being, would the user have bought the game in the first place?

Although US law is slightly different, I went through a tricky case about five years, where I appeared as a witness in a major bootlegging case.

The whole point I’m trying to make is, whether they’re as guilty as sin, and have bootlegs galore, getting a successful prosecution is extremely difficult. Also, what do you expect the chances are of getting any recompense? Virtually nil.

These are the main reasons why there have only been a handful of cases brought about against digital piracy/bootlegging ever. It’s just not worth it. It’s sad, but it’s true.

Also, I’m guessing that the term “modding” here, doesn’t necessarily mean physically altering (and certainly not with the sole intention of piracy). I know of a few friends who have modded Xboxes, but only to the extent that they are changed front-ends, simply because they detest the MS one, and it’s included rubbish.

I also know personally of 3 people who have had their account frozen for no reason at all. In fact, I was involved in their chasing MS. In each case, nobody knew why it had happened, and new accounts had to be made.

Furthermore, whilst I don’t think pirates should have a leg to stand on, personally, there still remains the fact under US consumer law (can’t remember their exact name for it), if you pay for a service up-front, and the contract terminates prematurely, for whatever reason, pro-rata refunds have to take place. I think MS’ll have a hard time defending that.

So, whilst I can’t support piracy at all, I have no problem with anyone standing up to someone such as MS, thinking (and behaving) like they’re a law unto themselves.

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